TBR [to be read] is a semi-regular,
invitation-only interview series with authors of newly released/forthcoming,
interesting books who will tell us about their new work as well as offer tips
on writing, stories about the publishing biz, and from time to time, a recipe!
Give us your elevator pitch: what’s your book about in
Evie Austin, native
of Hatteras Island, NC, and baddest girl on the planet, has not lived her life
in a straight line. There have been several detours—career snafus, bad romantic
choices, a loved but unplanned child—not to mention her ill-advised lifelong
obsession with boxer Mike Tyson. This is the story of what the baddest girl on
the planet must find in herself when a bag of pastries, a new lover, or quick
trip to Vegas won’t fix anything, when she must learn from her relationships
but also look within to navigate the decisions and turning points in redefining
a new notion of herself.
Which character did you most enjoy creating? Why? And
which character gave you the most trouble, and why?
I loved creating
Evie, my protagonist. Much of my writing previous to this project was
descriptive to the point of being cinematic, the old “show, don’t tell” thing.
But Evie was very voice driven. I found that, instead of stepping back to
describe what Evie was seeing or feeling, she’d just say it, but the way
she’d say it spoke volumes. She was so much fun to write. Evie’s ex-husband,
Stephen, gave me the most trouble. I was so firmly on Evie’s side that
initially he came out as a one-dimensional bad guy, so I worked really hard to
round him out and give him his own backstory and reasons for behaving the way
he did, including a shot at redemption toward the end of the book.
Tell us a bit about the highs and lows of your book’s
road to publication.
In the middle of
the project, way back when, I had a workshop with the author Janet Peery, who
was incredibly supportive and said something like, “this is going to get
published,” which gave me some much-needed confidence to actually pursue
publication. I got an agent fairly quickly when the project was done, but that
elicited a whole lot of “we really liked this, just not enough to publish it”
responses. In the meantime, I was getting married and immediately pregnant and
quickly found myself sucked into the undertow of parenting an infant/baby/toddler,
then a toddler and an infant concurrently as child #2 arrived. I started
looking at contests and small presses that seemed like good fits. Several
rejections later, I was a semi-finalist at a small North Carolina press I
admired. This was exhilarating and gave me a boost of hope, but the book
ultimately didn’t move on to the finals. I was crushed, honestly. It had seemed
like such a good fit. I found one more contest, for the Lee Smith Novel Prize
at Blair which, strangely enough, had been my favorite press as a child because
they published my beloved Taffy of Torpedo Junction, set on Hatteras
Island, same as the book I was submitting. And Lee Smith was my favorite
author. So, I scanned through the manuscript one more time and sent it in. It
was the only place I had it submitted, and in my head, I figured if and when it
got rejected, I’d tear the whole thing apart and put it back together in a more
traditional, linear form, once all the kids were in school and I had more time
And then, I kind of
forgot that it was out at a contest. I was in the throes of magnet school
selection for the oldest and preschool for the youngest and then, in a surprise
twist, pregnant again. Months later, when my phone rang with a North Carolina
number, I was in a cold and dirty McDonald’s play area, the baby strapped to my
chest as the older two shouted at me to watch them go down the slide, when I
heard that Baddest Girl had won the Lee Smith Novel Prize. Everyone at
Blair has been amazing. I felt like they really saw and understood what I was
trying to do with the project, and they were incredibly supportive and
understanding about working with small children hanging about.
The final twists:
I’d spent years establishing a community and support system and I’d planned to
really reach out to all my friends for help with the kids when my edits came in
so I could completely focus, but the pandemic hit at the same exact time. I
edited in fits and starts around 24/7 kids. Then my release date got shuffled
around a bunch as the pandemic’s effect on publishing became clear. But I
think, barring any pandemic-mail disasters, the release is finally going to
happen. So, yes, wow, highs and lows.
What’s your favorite piece of writing advice?
My professor grad
school would tell us, via a critic of Eudora Welty, “Always get your moon in
the right part of the sky.” I take that one to heart and try really hard to
keep my little details correct.
My favorite writing advice is “write until something
surprises you.” What surprised you in the writing of this book?
The first surprise
I had was that I didn’t want to stop writing this character. I initially just
wanted to do a short, fun, voice-driven little piece, but Evie’s complexity
unexpectedly captured me. Another sad surprise I had was when I casually typed
out that Evie’s beloved Aunt Fay had died. This led me to do a whole chapter on
her funeral. And then I found myself surprised by feeling some sympathy for
How did you find the title of your book?
The title is a play on Mike Tyson’s
nickname “The Baddest Man on the Planet.”
Evie meets Mike Tyson when she’s a
little girl, back when he was a famous boxer before any other incidents came to
light. His downfall corresponds with the onset of her bad reputation, or at
least it does in Evie’s mind. I’d wanted to title a chapter “The Baddest Girl
on the Planet” but none of them fit, then my best reader/friend/writing
soulmate suggested it as a title for the whole book.
Inquiring foodies and hungry book clubs want to know: Any
food/s associated with your book? (Any recipes I might share?)
Hatteras Island has been extremely isolated (it’s literally a sand bar in the
middle of the ocean), so traditional recipes tend to feature what was readily
available, usually seafood. Hatteras Style Clam Chowder is a notable Outer
Banks staple. It features a clear broth plus fresh, local clams and vegetables.
Figs also grow locally; I’ll include a fun recipe for Hatteras Fig and Whiskey
cake that was featured in Our State magazine for dessert!
Little neck clams are considered the
best. They’re the smallest and are thought to be the most tender. Whether it’s
a little neck, cherrystone, top neck or quahog, they’re all the quahog species
of clam. It’s just a question of size.
If going for fresh, about 100 little
neck will be needed. Chowder clams (top neck) are larger.
4 cups shucked clams
and juice (about 24 chowder clams)
3 cups diced
2 cups diced onions
1 cups water
6 pieces bacon,
fried and grease rendered
Chop clams, drain
juice and save it.
In a large pot, add
water, clam juice, potatoes, onions and grease.
Bring to a boil
until potatoes are tender crisp.
Add chopped clams
and simmer for about 20 minutes.
Add salt and pepper
Many recipes call for sautéing the onion
in the bacon grease first. Classically only salt and pepper are used to season
For a little different flavor, fresh
thyme adds a subtle herbaceous touch, and more bacon can also be added if
Hatteras Fig and Whisky Cake
1 cup oil
1 teaspoon vanilla
½ cup buttermilk
2 cups all-purpose flour
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon baking soda
1 teaspoon nutmeg
1 teaspoon allspice
1 cup fig preserves
1 cup nuts, preferably pecans or walnuts, finely chopped
½ cup whiskey
oven to 325°. Grease and flour a 10-inch tube pan. In a large bowl, cream
together sugar, eggs, and oil. Stir in vanilla. In a small bowl, sift together
the flour, salt, soda, and spices. Alternately add dry ingredients with
buttermilk to egg mixture, mixing well. Beat in fig preserves, nuts, and whiskey.
Pour into the prepared pan, and bake for about one hour, or until an inserted
toothpick comes out clean. Cool on a rack, then remove from pan. Serve warm.
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